Real Estate Underground · Episode 202 · Season 5
Money Reveals You: Gino Barbaro on the Mindset Behind 2,600 Units
July 7, 2026 · 39m
Show notes
Gino Barbaro is a best-selling author and co-founder of Jake & Gino, but he did not start there. He opened a restaurant with his family in 1994, lost money on his early real estate deals, and only found his footing when he partnered with Jake, set hard parameters, and built a repeatable process for buying multifamily from mom-and-pop owners. That framework carried them through the last cycle without the blowups so many operators are living through now. Today Gino has transacted more than 2,600 units, owns 1,900, and his students have closed over 90,000 units and raised more than $800 million.
This week on Real Estate Underground, Gino sits down with Ed Mathews to talk about the mindset underneath the numbers. His through line is simple and uncomfortable: money does not corrupt a person, it reveals them. And the reason two investors with the same deal get different outcomes usually comes down to what Gino calls financial flashpoints, the money memories each of us was raised inside. Save for a rainy day, money does not grow on trees, it takes money to make money. Gino spent years unlearning those beliefs before he could raise capital, syndicate, and build the portfolio he has now.
What you will learn:
Why your relationship with money, not your spreadsheet, decides whether you close deals, and how to spot the beliefs quietly holding you back. The mind shift from starting a business to make money to starting one to deliver value, and why Gino says it is the difference between one restaurant and six. Why the market moved from valuation through renovation to valuation through operations, and what that means for how you win now. The velocity of money, why you only make money when you exit, and the three things worth doing with capital after a sale. And why no deal is better than a bad deal, and how the ten-minute no became a superpower in a market where sellers still think it is 2021.
Gino also shares the money-coaching business he is building with his wife and son at Barbaro360, why he believes legacy is not something you leave behind but something you activate today, and the six-acre farm in Florida where he goes to get his hands dirty. As he puts it, if you want to learn from someone, just make sure they are still doing it right now.
If you are an operator trying to build something that lasts, this one is full of hard-won lessons from someone still in the work.
Chapters
00:00 Your relationship with money starts everything
00:59 Welcome to Real Estate Underground
01:40 The name, and using AI as a force multiplier
02:40 Life before and after Jake and Gino
03:40 Money does not corrupt you, it reveals you
04:40 Why you really start a business: value for the marketplace
06:00 A stuck market and the grit AI can cost you
07:40 No motivated seller, no deal
10:40 Financial flashpoints: the money memories that shape you
14:30 Wealth is an exchange of value
16:20 Valuation through renovation vs valuation through operations
19:40 Velocity of money: what to do after you exit
22:40 Paying down debt as a legacy play
24:40 Retail, industrial, and the discipline to wait
29:20 The final five: purpose, mentors, and the biggest mistake
35:40 This week's book and where to find Gino
This week's book: The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel
https://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Money-Timeless-lessons-happiness/dp/0857197681?tag=clarkstholdin-20
More Real Estate Underground episodes: clarkst.com/podcast
Elevista: elevista.com/podcast
Elevista - Speed as a Service™
Elevista Connect is the first AI-powered lead conversion system built for real estate investors.
🎧 Subscribe to Real Estate Underground for weekly insights on building wealth through real estate, without sacrificing your sanity.
Additional Resources:
- Clark St Capital -> Passive real estate investments for busy business owners and executives
- Elevista -> AI SaaS for real estate investors
- Clark St Academy on YouTube -> Learn how to invest in real estate
Social Media:
- LinkedIn -> Ed Mathews (President at Clark St and Elevista)
Heads up: If you find this week's book intriguing and you buy using our link, we receive a small commission that helps support the show. Thank you!
More episodes · Subscribe
202 more conversations.
Every Tuesday, an operator-grade conversation about multifamily underwriting and what actually works.
Want the underwriting work behind the show? Join the newsletter.
By submitting, you agree to our Terms and Privacy Policy.
No spam. Unsubscribe any time.

